I've been avoiding this thread, mainly because I didn't have the spare time to paricipate. However, I made the mistake of reading it and have to put in my two cents
First off, there are several categories of Bad Movies:
Bad in a good way - Cheesy (i.e. B movies you can MST3K to)
Bad in a over-rated way (any big budget mediocrity-subject to personal opinion)
Personally bad (i.e. simply not your type of movie)
Bad in a bad way (it blows)
Bad in an Action Movie way ( a hybrid of Cheesy and Mediocre, usually the result of flaws in story, acting, effects, budget, or all of the above)
When I lived in New Orleans, I attended a couple of the New Orleans Worst Film Festivals- roughly 12 hours straight of b-movies. Good fun all around
I consider Flash Gordon a modern B-Movie, done intentionally in a retro campy style, that is true to the comic strips.
I thought Batman and Robin (the 4th one) blew. (it also sucked in an Action way and an Over-rated way). Being generous, it might have been intended to be cheesy in homage to the tv series. But that lofty goal was.....ahem....missed.
Well, thats all the time I have to debate this. Movies are gresat subjects of discussion, but also have a tendency to be endless and repeat themselves. Stay back! I won't let you suck me in!