10 Dumb Moments in Sci-Fi Cinema

AmShak

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There aren't a lot of good reasons to be a science fiction freak.

Sure, the genre gets respect, not to mention box office yield, but the poor innocent fans are still depicted as lifeless, dateless, and wearing Vulcan ears.

But, and we say this with love, sci-fi fans often deserve the reputation. Once people overhear some pale guy with wizard hair explaining how a light saber simply isn't possible, as the exposed plasma from the device would irradiate every living organism with a 5-kilometer radius, what are people supposed to think? "Sexy?"

Yet, part of being a sci-fi fan is being its harshest critic, and so we can't help ourselves.

Its part of the fun to discuss what was and wasn't good science fiction. And to be clear, this has nothing to do with one's ability to enjoy a movie. Did anything in "The Fifth Element" make sense? No. Did it kick ass? Yes.

So, this list is dedicated to the sci-fi fan. It's our stab at the 10 incredibly dumb things that occurred in otherwise really successful sci-fi movies in recent times. Don't look for B-movies or classics here. This is where the blockbusters went wrong.


#1 Imperial walkers attack the rebels
"The Empire Strikes Back"​
Why it's so dumb: So, the same company that brings you the dark side of the force and the death star decides that tall, slow, off balance elephant thingies with laser beam-shooting tusks are the best way to ferret out the rebels from their underground fortress? Darth Vader may have been a patsy, but we all know he wasn't that stupid. If ever a huge planet destroying technology was the appropriate choice, this was it.

Why we don't care: Seeing the walkers come into focus in the rebel binoculars was the moment when "Star Wars" fans realized that "The Empire Strikes Back" might indeed be cooler than the original. That scene alone could be the reason we paid to see four more.

Read the full list at msn.com
 

AmShak

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The aliens need "Signs"
"Signs"​
Why it's so dumb: So many sci-fi fans have heard this one that it's almost bad form to mention it, but the blunder is pretty simple: Aliens navigate the vastness of space and find life on a puny planet. Then it turns out they need cornfields on that puny planet to point them to fresh meat. The only thing that made sense about the scenario is that the aliens wanted to eat Mel Gibson first.
Why we don't care: As every sci-fi fan can tell you, "I want to believe."


John Hurt feels better, so opts for breakfast
"Alien"​
Why it's so dumb: "Oh, thank goodness the acid-blooded crab thing fell off my face. Hey, do I smell scrambled eggs?" Despite a ship full of highly-intelligent technical and science people, the crew of the Nostromo decides not to quarantine their alien-toting buddy long enough to make sure there were no problems along the lines of, say, stomach erupting alien babies.
Why we don't care: A hundred space horror movies later, including three more "Alien" flicks, a lot don't remember how terrifying "Alien" was in 1979. And while the movie was good and creepy up to this point, the "man gives birth" scene was the moment when the movie went from just scary to the scariest movie you had ever seen.


Skynet sends a new and improved Terminator
"Terminator 2: Judgement Day"​
Why it's so dumb: There were at least 50 smarter, easier alternatives to whacking Sarah Conner and her unborn son other than sending back the hit-machine to the land of big hair. And after screwing up the first time, why would they try again after Sarah has had years to train both herself and her military mastermind child? How about sending a good old T-1000 back to Sarah's great, great, great grandmother's house around 1880? What would Kyle have used to fight? A musket?
Why we don't care: The relentless pursuer is a suspense theme predating the written word, and for good reason. "T2" felt like high-budget vindication for all of us who actually saw and enjoyed "The Terminator" the first time around.


Will Smith uploads a virus to save the world
"Independence Day"​
Why it's so dumb: "Independence Day" had already lost all credibility when Will Smith climbed into an alien spacecraft and after a few moments, figured out how to fly the thing. But dumb turns to laugh-out-loud ludicrous when Will conquers the aliens with a floppy disk, in an absurd homage to "War of the Worlds." Will should have just stuffed a peanut butter sandwich into the disk drive. It would have had the same odds of working.
Why we don't care: Because we like absurd homages to "War of the Worlds." Part of loving sci-fi is recognizing moments that only other sci-fi fans will recognize. The only thing better would have been if Orson Welles did a voiceover for "virus uploading" rather than simply seeing the words on the screen.


Dr. Brundle tries out his fly machine
"The Fly"​
Why it's so dumb: Jeff Goldblum's character is smart enough to defy physics and biology in every conceivable way, including appearing attractive to Geena Davis, but he isn't smart enough to keep his equipment free of household pests. But honestly, that's not the dumbest part. The dumbest part is that he rationalizes ever stepping into the thing. If Goldblum's "Jurassic Park" character were there, he would have said, "Don't be an idiot," and the movie would have been over.
Why we don't care: "The Fly" was a movie with the world's easiest gimmick: Watch a guy turn into a fly. There should be more movies like this. Watch a guy turn into a lobster. Watch a guy turn into an oyster. This is what science is all about.


Velociraptors come off like geniuses
"Jurassic Park"​
Why it's so dumb: Jaws was a thoughtless eating machine and scared the swim trunks off of us, so why did we need dinosaurs fresh from the debate club? The book read perfectly well with the dinosaurs just being very, very hungry. The raptors, despite having acorn-sized brains, seemed to have no problem navigating a vast building they'd never been in before in order to corral Sam, Laura and the kids in the lobby. Maybe the T-Rex came in and ate them just for their severe lack of credibility.
Why we don't care: You'd be challenged to find a single person from the "Land of the Lost" generation who didn't love some part of "Jurassic Park." And besides, it was nice to see the computer generated image technology put to use in a ways other than aliens and terminators.


Agents throw punches at Neo
"The Matrix"​
Why it's so dumb: Anything that happens to you in the Matrix happens to you for real, right? Thus verifying the theory that if you die in your dream, you're really dead. So why then do the Agents decide that shotguns and kung-fu are the best way to take out Neo? If the Matrix is such a savvy computer, wouldn't, "Neo is in New Jersey, good-bye New Jersey!" be a pretty obvious solution?
Why we don't care: Most sci-fi fans had read William Gibson's "Neuromancer" many years earlier, and "The Matrix" finally helped visualize what the hell was happening in that book.


Superman turns back time
"Superman: The Movie"​
Why it's so dumb: This is the classic problem with any time travel plot. If Superman can turn back time, why not turn it back a few years, find Lex Luthor, and break a few fingers? Instead, Superman turns back the clock just enough to save Lois from a not-so-shallow grave.
Why we don't care: Actually, we do. This one is just too dumb.


Jodie Foster and company pass the alien MENSA test
"Contact"​
Why it's so dumb: Intelligent creatures from across the universe go to great lengths to let humanity know they exist in an otherwise great movie called "Contact." Life from distant galaxies intelligent enough to capture our rays, translate them, then dramatically send us the blueprints for a wormhole machine, somehow found it necessary to put those blueprints on a flattened piece of origami.
Why we don't care: "Contact" was (finally) the insightful and thought provoking sci-fi movie fans had waited more than a decade for (with all due respect to "Species"). And most fans removed their Vulcan ears in honor of Carl Sagan while watching it.
 

Barada

Saboteur
Okay, rebuttal time.

ESB: - They say it would have made more sense to send the Death Star in. Wait a minute, the Death Star wasn't around in ESB. Besides, Vader wanted Luke alive, not obliterated.

The original plan didn't involve AT-AT's at all. It was Ozzel's fault for coming out of lightspeed too soon, and the shields would 'deflect any bombardment'. Therefore, they had to use the ground assault, and they certainly were effective.

This was probably the worst example they list in the article.

Signs - Can't really argue with this one...

Alien - They claim a ship full of scientists and techies can't figure out to isolate him. Hmmm, only Ash and Ripley were scientists - the others had no real clue what was going on, and just accepted it was over when the facehugger fell off and Kane woke up. Ash was working to protect the alien, and the only other science officer - Ripley - argued the entire time that Kane shouldn't have been brought back onboard, never mind isolated.

Another pretty stupid example.

T2 - They make good points about the legitimacy of when in time the Terminator should have been sent. However, they mention that a Terminator wasn't the best weapon at their disposal. I do believe that at the time of T2, a Terminator was NOT sent back to get Connor. It was the T-1000.

Iffy argument, with a good point balanced by a stupid one.

ID4 - Loved the movie, but they have a very good point on this one. No argument here.

The Fly - They're stretching it on this one. While many of us in a similar situation wouldn't dare try it, the article's comparison of Goldblum's character to the one he played in JP can be used again in a quote. "They were so concerned with whether they could, they never stopped to consider whether they should." That summed up Seth Brundle perfectly.

JP - Again, like ID4, a real thrill ride, but they make an excellent point about raptor intelligence. Unfortunately, the credibility was stretched even further with Lost World and JPIII, so to point the finger at the first movie was their least logical point of attack.

The Matrix - I don't necessarily agree with their alternative vision for the plot, but I do agree that there were gaping plot holes in the movie.

Superman - Excellent point on an otherwise great movie. Time travel should have never been introduced in the plot.

Contact - This movie kept them awake long enough to criticize it? ::)

There were lots of other examples of hit movies they could have blasted. Oh well, I'll leave that for a different discussion.

Barada
 

Zepp

Interstellar Buccaneer
Actually, for the Matrix, I was thinking of the fact that to obliterate such a massive population center without breaking continuity, break continuity and people wake up, would involve the destruction of alot of batteries...
 

AmShak

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as i have mentioned on other threads here at the site, this is one area i wouldn't mind seeing lucas tinker with before the ot comes out on dvd.
 

Zepp

Interstellar Buccaneer
Maybe adding a couple of modified TIE bombers would be cool, but I think that it works as is...
 
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